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Jordan Bosstick @jordanbosstick 5 years ago

First of all, LOVE that you used on of my favorite quotes: “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.” That saying is so true and one that America should seriously consider applying to our entitlement programs. We need to help people develop the skills to lift themselves out of poverty, rather than simply try to sustain them in poverty. Which leads to your closing argument that “The only long-term solution to economic disadvantage is to teach people to help themselves.”

         
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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com 5 years ago

There are several government agencies that are set up to help someone going through a rough time. One of these is the welfare system. When a person is laid off and can’t immediately find another job, they sign up for this form of assistance to keep a roof over their family’s head, as well as paying for food and utilities. This started out as a good thing, but got abused real fast. In my opinion, where it feel short was, that after a 6 month period and the person could not find a job in their chosen field, then they must take some kind of training in something that has job opportunities in the area they are living. This training could be paid for on a state or federal level, then repaid by having a small amount taken out of each weeks check until it is paid back. Also, if nothing local could be found in the persons primary occupation but something is available perhaps in another state that information could be set up on a nationwide data base. If the person refuses retraining or relocation then at 12 months they forfeit all benefits. Knowing that there would be a definite cut off point would be a great motivator.

         
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Two Cents @twocents 5 years ago

@jlriggs57aol-com I really like the concept you mentioned of taking a small portion out of a persons paycheck once they find a job. The taxpayers help them get back on their feet so its good concept that those individuals pay it back. It would also serve as a reason not to use the entitlement system if you are looking to abuse it because you wouldn’t want to take a training program if you are just taking advantage, and you wouldn’t want to have portions of your paycheck taken once you so decide to work. I had never considered that type of program and i really like the idea. Great point and great article by Jeisi.

         
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Isabelle Granter @issabell 5 years ago

i agree that “teaching people to fish” is more efficient in the long run.

However, when you say that the rich pay a larger percent of the total taxes in a country, you have to keep in mind that they also make the most money, so of course as a whole they pay more actual dollars in taxes!
its the percentage of individual income that matters — they could pay the same percentage on income and still contribute a higher percentage overall in dollar amounts.

the money for higher education/ vocational training needs to come from somewhere. the idea of having people pay it back from their paycheck is good, but its the same as student loans — we can contribute less to entitlement and more to educational scholarships if we want to make a difference

         
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Anonymous @ 5 years ago

Increasingly, people do not want to help themselves. Interestingly, many liberals claim that government intervention fosters a sense of “community”, but I would argue the opposite. A big government overlaps with charitable people and organizations, and creates a Big Brother to turn to, instead of looking and what YOU might do differently.

         
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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com 5 years ago

As I have said in other topics, the “gimmes”, right now, outnumber those of us who would rather work and earn what we get. This gimme attitude is being passed down from generation to generation and they feel like a living is owed to them. Self pride and personal dignity no longer plays into it because the more a person can get the government to give them the “smarter” they seem to their peers. We are breeding generations of shiftless, lazy, useless, people and the longer the government endorses these activities the more the gimmes will increase until the country is destroyed. Make no mistake laziness can wreck a country, even one as big as America.

         
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Gary @grand-vizier 5 years ago

I think the larger problem with the entire system ,is that the way the country is being governed it MUST result in ever increasing power of the government over the citizens.
Every tax increase,new requlation ,law or agency gives more power to the government and less to the people.
Higher taxes and a more powerful IRS is just the tip of the problem.
Virtually every action taken by any individual or company is somehow controlled ,regulated,taxed,licensed prohibited,subsidized ,unionized ,or unprofitable.
No one can possibly know every law or regulation, so everyone is always in legal jeopardy. Someone from the Government can always find a way to tax,fine arrest or otherwise penalize virtually everyone.
If the goverment can decide to take from you the fruit of your efforts we have become slaves for all practical purposes. Failure to conform will deprive you of your freedom
but if you conform do you really HAVE freedom?

         

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